April 7, 2009

Jean-Marie Eveillard
Jean-Marie Eveillard was the Portfolio Manager for the First Eagle Global, Overseas, Gold, U.S. Value and Overseas Variable Funds, where he built one of the most successful long-term performance records in the investment business. On March 31, Mr. Eveillard transitioned to a Senior Advisory role at First Eagle Funds. In addition, we spoke with Abhay Deshpande, a Portfolio Manager for the First Eagle Global, Overseas, Gold and U.S. Value Funds.

Abhay Deshpande
We spoke with Deshpande and Eveillard on March 31, thus earning the distinction of having the final interview with Eveillard prior to his transition.
Which worries you more – a decline in the dollar, rapid inflation, or deflation? How are you positioning your portfolio to defend against these scenarios?
We have many worries, but we are not positioned against any particular outcome. Our top-down analysis is focused on those trends that will affect the intrinsic values of the companies we own. We believe the most effective defense against these scenarios is to spread risks through diversification.
You have called your billion-dollar purchase of gold “calamity insurance.” What potential events do you perceive possible that makes such a large position advisable? How do you go about determining your allocation to gold?
Our gold position is based on our belief that gold is a universal store of value. We believe a gold position of less than 5% of our assets is irrelevant and a position of more than 15% would be too painful if we are wrong. For most of 2008, our position was between 7-8%, but it eventually grew to almost 15%. This was not because we bought more gold, but because the value of gold rose relative to the value of the rest of our holdings.
After World War I, during the great inflation of the Weimar Republic, the German government acted very shrewdly. They forbade German citizens from buying gold and from holding foreign currencies, and they taxed real estate very heavily. As a result, some rich farmers bought grand pianos. They did not want the paper currency being issued, because they knew it would be worthless the next day. Instead, they chose pianos as a hard asset that would hold its value. Today, we see gold as having these same characteristics.
The current actions of the US and UK governments, through “quantitative easing” – which is really just a code word for printing more money – will be rather good for common stocks. Initially, at least, these actions will be bad for cash and Treasury bonds. At some point, they will be good for real estate and fine art. However, these actions are very good for gold.
The path of increased money supply leads to real assets, and gold is our asset of choice. Common stocks will also benefit, as they are representative of real assets.
Remember, the opportunity cost of holding gold is near zero, because interest rates are so low. Gold investors should keep in mind the two extremes. The government has a strong incentive to keep long-term Treasury rates low, because it allows them buy Treasury bonds to increase the money supply. At the other extreme, the government dislikes high gold prices, because it reflects poorly on their policies. This is partly why FDR, during the Great Depression, made it illegal to own gold. So, to some degree, gold investors are betting against the government.Display article as PDF for printing.
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